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Katoma- 07-07-2007
This is a little thing i did when I got curious of Hell Rizer. I am doing this as I type it, so I won't really be any deleting of old info.

This Study was started when I was hit for 17k by Hell Rizer DX's Thick Quincy Arrow. I thought this weird, So I went back with 25k Rei Power, and it still did approximately 17k. Not one change... So I am going back to do it WITH screenshots this time. PLease note: I did edit on him, his Rei Power was 12520, 20 over the cap, and yes, I did check.

Knowing my Prey hides out in the Southern Half of LN, I immediately headed there. At the point I reached (3:54 PM) he was not in LN, So I waited in the Training Corner (Northeast).

Continuing my search, I found Yoshima and killed him. I use Sense Reiatsu, North and West, so he's Southeast most likely... I note now Yoshima's Damage from my Raikouhou is:

Katoma of the Silver Blade: Destruction Spell No.63! Raikouhou!
Katoma of the Silver Blade hit Yoshimá with his Raikouhou for 34950 damage!
Katoma of the Silver Blade attacked Yoshimá for 10092.5 damage!
Katoma of the Silver Blade attacked Yoshimá for 9117.5 damage!
Katoma of the Silver Blade attacked Yoshimá for 9871.5 damage!

Hell Rizer DX has more vitality than you!
Hell Rizer DX has less spiritual power than you! <<< Wtf, note this
Hell Rizer DX has more strength than you!
You sense that he is west of where you are!
You sense that he is north of where you are!


I go outside, it still says Northwest, so southeast I go...

I find him in HM Southeast Corner... And wait to engage


Icy would like to announce:


He didnt know he wasnt aloud because he said everone else was saying how in the shin arcade
Katoma of the Silver Blade: Destruction Spell No.63! Raikouhou!
Katoma of the Silver Blade hit Hell Rizer DX with his Raikouhou for 24914 damage!
Aice has killed Xenji!
Hitsugaya has killed Adremalek!
Info: Sephiroth has logged on the server.
Hideki has killed YangXwX!


big damage difference isn't it?

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Now here's the fun part. Some Idiot decided to attack me with Getsugas, so I just went and kept healing since he hid on the other side of the map. Jesus he's afk for a while and it's PISSING ME OFF!? So I got someone to watch me Bind the ***** to prove Rikujoukourou doesn't even WORK anymore

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Oh God.... And When eh Comes back he REFUSES to Shoot me with Arrows.

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YAY! He attackes me in Lost Nachos! I got a screen shot to boot! I edit myself to 25k Rei Power to -*test*-('") this part.

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I find him outside LN, to the East Spamming Arrows like nothing. Now Remember, he's at cap, 12.5k (+20), SO,

he goes from 17152 down to 11998. That's a 5154 Difference. Now, Question Ladies and Gentlemen. Yet how could That be? Regardless considering his rate of Fire, which is AS FAST, if NOT faster than Ichigo Bankai's Attack Speed, he's pulling off Superior Damage with Equal Flash-Step Speeds and power surpassing Ichigo Bankai's?

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While we're on the topic, let's look at Ichigo bankai's Getsuga. 12.5k x 1.5 = 18750, however whenever I see Getsuga Tenshou, it does a lot less than that, so I summoned the Witness from the Rikujoukourou Test again, with my Defense at 12500.

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Wtf, not even 12.5k WITH A Getsuga Vs Another player whos Defense IS 12.5k?

Anyone ELSE see something wrong with this math? How Can something that quick be THAT damaging? Add in Gritz, which unlike Rikujoukourou seemingly isn't based on Rei Power... And Quincys are right now horribly broke.

Credits:

Collection of Data goes to me.
Thanks to The Demon's Wrath for observing the Rikujoukourou Length AND helping me with Getsuga Damage

Thanks to Hell Rizer DX for proving he has no skill, he just spams arrows which do MORE than a freaking Ichinub!

Ryuuka- 07-07-2007
lmao, and i thought ichinubs were unbeatable? now i'm more confident against them than quincinubs...

Katoma- 07-07-2007
QUOTE (Ryuuka @ July 07, 2007 08:53 pm)
lmao, and i thought ichinubs were unbeatable? now i'm more confident against them than quincinubs...

>_> I had multiple reports that it seemed Wrong as to Hell's Damage. So I decided to do this. Made me waste OVER a half an hour waiting for his *** to get off AFK!

Hell_Rizer_DX- 07-07-2007
ok firzt of all how iz it my fault dat i somehow surpass(if dat's even true), and quincy'z all they can do is shoot (dat's there bezt move)arrows. katoma is saying dat im cheap wit no skills because i spam arrow yet every1 also say's ur cheap, because u had vaizard and all ur kido'z and all u do is spam ****ing bind. and every1 knows ur ****ing edited dude, there no way some1 at lvl 166 can have over 100k hp and trust me i checked . You guyz dont realize every time he get's own by some1(for example: Me, Yang Xwx,Shawn, and Hideki) he alwayz make's up some BS, just admit dat some ppl can ****ing own u like the ppl i mentioned, stop being a sore loser... so b4 u talk about ppl look at urself ok, LaterZ dry.gif


P.S: it doez not matter if u wasted over half an hour, do to the fact u got no life dude dry.gif



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Ryuuka- 07-07-2007
lol, i always maneuver between my close ranged attacks, shikai, and kido...you quincies disgrace the art of battle with your arrow spam =P start using your other silver tube skills rather than jut arrows

Matt- 07-07-2007
and with the last thing they get (with the five things around them...don't know the name) he can do like 50k to a capped out person (me)

Katoma- 07-07-2007
QUOTE (Matt @ July 07, 2007 09:09 pm)
and with the last thing they get (with the five things around them...don't know the name) he can do like 50k to a capped out person (me)

>_> Seele Schneider does = To Your MRei Stat.

In my pics, that would make, IF my Shini could use Seele Schneider, do 153k each.

Ryuuka- 07-07-2007
0.o quincies+nerf=helpful to all of those of us training in HM...

luka16- 07-07-2007
damn u got 17 msn. I am going crazy with 4. That annoying sound

Katoma- 07-07-2007
QUOTE (luka16 @ July 07, 2007 10:42 pm)
damn u got 17 msn. I am going crazy with 4. That annoying sound

*Has a lot of AFK friends, and NEVER turns off his comp, it REALLY stacks*

Katoma- 07-08-2007
QUOTE (Hell_Rizer_DX @ July 07, 2007 09:00 pm)
ok firzt of all how iz it my fault dat i somehow surpass(if dat's even true), and quincy'z all they can do is shoot (dat's there bezt move)arrows. katoma is saying dat im cheap wit no skills because i spam arrow yet every1 also say's ur cheap, because u had vaizard and all ur kido'z and all u do is spam ****ing bind. and every1 knows ur ****ing edited dude, there no way some1 at lvl 166 can have over 100k hp and trust me i checked . You guyz dont realize every time he get's own by some1(for example: Me, Yang Xwx,Shawn, and Hideki) he alwayz make's up some BS, just admit dat some ppl can ****ing own u like the ppl i mentioned, stop being a sore loser... so b4 u talk about ppl look at urself ok, LaterZ dry.gif


P.S: it doez not matter if u wasted over half an hour, do to the fact u got no life dude dry.gif



From:Death can also be a blessing

This is my editted account baka, It's for -*test*-('")ing things and for beating down nOObs like you.

You and your brother both play cheap, not opinion, fact. You choose Quincys with their ReiP ignoring bind and overpowered arrows (Again, see my little study. MORE damage then Getsuga!?), Him on the other hand, he just binds and runs like a pansy, taunting people then runs off again.

Answer: You're BOTH nOObs.

Hell_Rizer_DX- 07-08-2007
QUOTE (Katoma @ July 08, 2007 11:31 am)
QUOTE (Hell_Rizer_DX @ July 07, 2007 09:00 pm)
ok firzt of all how iz it my fault dat i somehow surpass(if dat's even true), and quincy'z all they can do is shoot (dat's there bezt move)arrows. katoma is saying dat im cheap wit no skills because i spam arrow yet every1 also say's ur cheap, because u had vaizard and all ur kido'z and all u do is spam ****ing bind. and every1 knows ur ****ing edited dude, there no way some1 at lvl 166 can have over 100k hp and trust me i checked . You guyz dont realize every time he get's own by some1(for example: Me, Yang Xwx,Shawn, and Hideki) he alwayz make's up some BS, just admit dat some ppl can ****ing own u like the ppl i mentioned, stop being a sore loser... so b4 u talk about ppl look at urself ok, LaterZ dry.gif


P.S: it doez not matter if u wasted over half an hour, do to the fact u got no life dude dry.gif



From:Death can also be a blessing

This is my editted account baka, It's for -*test*-('")ing things and for beating down nOObs like you.

You and your brother both play cheap, not opinion, fact. You choose Quincys with their ReiP ignoring bind and overpowered arrows (Again, see my little study. MORE damage then Getsuga!?), Him on the other hand, he just binds and runs like a pansy, taunting people then runs off again.

Answer: You're BOTH nOObs.

tsk tsk tsk of all ppl to say dat it had to be Katoma wow...well untill u stop being the biggest ***hole in the whole website and making wack *** excuses...<---after dat then come talk to me LaterZ dry.gif

P.S: if u were 2 dumb to get thiz wat im saying iz dat this convo is officially over dry.gif


From:Death can also be a Blessing

Katoma- 07-08-2007
QUOTE (Hell_Rizer_DX @ July 08, 2007 05:28 pm)
QUOTE (Katoma @ July 08, 2007 11:31 am)
QUOTE (Hell_Rizer_DX @ July 07, 2007 09:00 pm)
ok firzt of all how iz it my fault dat i somehow surpass(if dat's even true), and quincy'z all they can do is shoot (dat's there bezt move)arrows. katoma is saying dat im cheap wit no skills because i spam arrow yet every1 also say's ur cheap, because u had vaizard and all ur kido'z and all u do is spam ****ing bind. and every1 knows ur ****ing edited dude, there no way some1 at lvl 166 can have over 100k hp and trust me i checked . You guyz dont realize every time he get's own by some1(for example: Me, Yang Xwx,Shawn, and Hideki) he alwayz make's up some BS, just admit dat some ppl can ****ing own u like the ppl i mentioned, stop being a sore loser... so b4 u talk about ppl look at urself ok, LaterZ dry.gif


P.S: it doez not matter if u wasted over half an hour, do to the fact u got no life dude dry.gif



From:Death can also be a blessing

This is my editted account baka, It's for -*test*-('")ing things and for beating down nOObs like you.

You and your brother both play cheap, not opinion, fact. You choose Quincys with their ReiP ignoring bind and overpowered arrows (Again, see my little study. MORE damage then Getsuga!?), Him on the other hand, he just binds and runs like a pansy, taunting people then runs off again.

Answer: You're BOTH nOObs.

tsk tsk tsk of all ppl to say dat it had to be Katoma wow...well untill u stop being the biggest ***hole in the whole website and making wack *** excuses...<---after dat then come talk to me LaterZ dry.gif

P.S: if u were 2 dumb to get thiz wat im saying iz dat this convo is officially over dry.gif


From:Death can also be a Blessing

OH yes I'm an asshole for revealing how broke your race is and using you, whom EVERYONE complains about being overpowered right now, as the Guinea Pig to prove it.

Ryuuka- 07-08-2007
Lets stop fighting over this trivial matter >.>

Quincies, no matter how we look at it, are stopping the races from being balanced (i've seen a bontou own a shinigami, but i've yet to see one own a high-level quincy, i've also seen sado/inoue own shinigami but not quincy)

And yes, my comparisons from my fights with EVERY race are based on level 150+ (bankai and super skills for all races)

Quincy vs bontou=quincy win

Quincy vs Shini in Bankai=quincy win

Quincy vs Inoue: Quincy won

Quincy vs Sado: Quincy won

Quincy vs Arrancar: No con-*test*-('")...quincy won...

while what i've seen, the other races stand an equal chance against one another...

luka16- 07-08-2007
hmm can u -*test*-('") that shini with Reiatsu Power Blast too

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