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Ryuuka- 07-25-2007
>.> Sados are over powered, quincy's seele schinedrs are BS, and Bounts are severely underpowered...

And before everyone goes "WTF? you guys have killer regen" the ONLY reason 1/2 of the bounts on the server can do so well w/ a bount is b/c they've learned to compensate for the fact that we have no moves excluding the one that comes w/ our dolls tongue.gif, once again...only regen and mebe our moves need to be altered to put us on your guy's "not OP'd list"

Sados can reflect almost every projectile, INCLUDING bount doll attacks, meaning we have no choice to meele (hence 3-10 bounts in the bount org are really good at FS dodging) Then they have Le Muerte which will be spammable in v4 w/ the will of the demon, El directo that can knock you back and nearly 1-shot someone about 50 levels over them.

Quincy Seele schnider must've eaten spinach or something, b/c a level 300 got hit by a level 200 quincy's seele for about 100k XD

also, im going to add...sados hit me for 40k w/ Le Murete when they have less than 10k attack...while my BEST meele hit as an attackless bount is barely even 2500 damage over my boosted attack

Warren G- 07-25-2007
you apparantly are also a dumbass because i have 10.2k attack and hit a weak hollow with la muerte for not even 30k. puto guey

Ryuuka- 07-25-2007
>.> Note: the person who had used that le muerte on me...had recently won a tourney, so i guess his attack was boosted above what he said (cant check stats and sense reiatsu isnt very reliable)

Warren G- 07-26-2007
if you know this then what are you complaining about

kliang417- 07-26-2007
sado's aren't necessarily overpowered, they are simply very good against ichigo's. There are several projectiles that can't be reflected such as quincy arrows and byakurai. Theres also the fact that shinigami ( which i'm not saying is unfair) are allowed to bind us with sai and further slow us down, way below their normal speed. It is true that the 4k boost when we are in final form is spectacular at first, but as u go on and further lvl when ur base level is 15- 16 k it isn't nearly are significant as the arrancar and ichigo's 2x attack. Lastly, our flash step,sonido, ( which i am not complaining about, i feel it is fine as it is) is not as effective as the shini flash step, it is true we have reflect, and our la muerte is very powerful, although we severely lack in speed and as katoma has previously mentioned the delay on our attacks are our weaknesses. Also, on the subject of the Rage of the devil coming in v4, it only lasts for 20 seconds, an ichi, or a shinigami can easily outrun us for that long.


btw, i apologize about the previous topic ont his subject i started with disregard for the rules

Xfire- 07-26-2007
...Indeeed Sados are overpowered i mean im lvl 292 almost 293 and have deffence of 20k+ and i remember a sado lvl 100 to hit me with la muerte or something for 40K damage, I was WTF?!
P.S. Now i dont have any problem in killing Sados though.Oh and also I'm not Ichigo.

Warren G- 07-26-2007
Exactly my point. and kliang thank you for pointing out everything for these sado haters wink.gif

kliang417- 07-26-2007
np

Dark Riku- 07-27-2007
wow, warren your a fu*king moron, all i said was how much damage a damn sado does to a ichigo vai, didnt say that sado beat that ichigo, all im sayin is that sados moves are too strong at low lvs, just like quincy, and i dont give a fu*k if u guys are slow after u use el crapo, i can still beat someone not flash stepping, just using the arrow keys, so dont act like since u lost it your weak as hell

Ryuuka- 07-27-2007
There's one thing that just about everyone other than this warren guy agrees on...considering only TWO projectiles break through reflect, and are only avaliable to 2 of the many races, the Sado reflect arm should be an activated thing that drains Reiatsu when used.

Wanna see why everyone hates sados warren? here's why::

v4
Sados: Get will of the demon, a power increaser that allows them to spam la muerte, when it ends the aura explodes sending a la muerte-like blast in all directions.

Bounto: Regen getting nerfed b/c everyone complained (tho i kinda agree) that 5% per sec. is bullcrap

Shinigami: Already learn their kidos very slow, losing rikojou due to cheapness

Quincy: Lost Gritz XD

compare the three nerfs there to sado, and that's only one of the new things i listed, there's 2-3 other buff ups to sados wich is why several people want reflect nerfed tongue.gif

Dark Riku- 07-27-2007
Well, to sum this all up, Regen should be 2.5% and both Regen and Reflect should be activated and drain rei, that would solve all problems that i have with sados and u guys have with bountos

Ryuuka- 07-27-2007
actually, bounts can have the regen at 2.5% w/o rei drain being needed. here's why

1) Shinigami Spam of Raikouhou can easily take us out regardless (been hit for around 72k by it)

2) 2.5% of most of our HP is only around 8k per sec. anyways, easy to take off unless we're running

3) Unlike sados we use our rei for our doll attacks lol

Dark Riku- 07-27-2007
yep, i agree there, now that caps are higher, 8k per second wont even stand a chance against plp doing over 40k damage, well, for the noob bountos that is, i will still pwn with 2.5% regen

Cloud- 07-27-2007
i think all classes should be balanced and should all be equaly powerful

Ryuuka- 07-27-2007
XD they're apparently equal right now, yet vais are considered gods and bounts are (tho totally inappropriate) conisidered useless

Therefore i propose a Vaizard vs Bounto tournmanet to prove that bounts are fairly strong XD

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